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Can anyone give some suggestions for an alcohol free base for making perfume? This is my first time delving into this and I'd like to give perfume making a try, but I want to do it sans alcohol. ; )
Also...could I use an oil base instead? Is there a way to infuse a scent into a carrier oil...then add water to dilute it so it isn't as oily?
Forgive my ignorance! lol This is all new to me!
Also...could I use an oil base instead? Is there a way to infuse a scent into a carrier oil...then add water to dilute it so it isn't as oily?
Forgive my ignorance! lol This is all new to me!
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Re: Alcohol-free perfume?
Mon, April 23, 2007 - 9:11 AMall my own perfumes are just an almond oil base with essential oils/resins added in. they do not fade away as fast as alcohol-based fragrances, and people can still smell them on me after the end of a long day. -
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Mon, April 23, 2007 - 9:38 AMThanks so much Chili for your reply, I appreciate it. What ratio do you find works best for essential oils to almond oil? Do you recommend essential oils over fragrance oils? Are there any that should absolutely not be used on skin, even if diluted? -
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Mon, April 23, 2007 - 9:57 AMwelllll I am no measurer! I have a small bottle that I like to use for myself, and it holds about 2-3 Tbsp of almond oil + 20-40 drops of scent, depending upon the blend. I use this size and style bottle to make scents for others also...it is blue glass and has a roller-ball top and a threaded top, and is a great gift size.
I only use essential oils and do not personally find synthetics and fragrance oils to be appealing.
There are many eo's that should not be used full-concentration, many not to be used on the skin directly, and many not to be used in baths or inhalers. I would do some book or online research to find out about specific oils that you want to use, as there is much information out there. -
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Mon, April 23, 2007 - 11:34 AMI don't reccomend vegtable oils, i always smell the edge that comes with vegtable oils, and they do not age well either. Food grade Di-propolene glycol will do the same thing, and last for years. It is thick, yet water based, and absorbes oils great. You can find it thru
makers of incense, it is employed as a cutting oil for concentrated scent products, like ambrette wax, etc.
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Re: Alcohol-free perfume?
Mon, April 23, 2007 - 1:09 PM<Also...could I use an oil base instead? Is there a way to infuse a scent into a carrier oil...then add water to dilute it so it isn't as oily?>
I've been making my own natural perfume blends for a number of years now. My absolute favorite carrier oil is JOJOBA oil. It is virtually odorless and absorbs beautifully into the skin, with no oily residue. You can find organic jojoba oil at most health food stores/pharmacies.
It also mixes well with beeswax, if you want to experiment with making solid perfumes (great to carry with you). -
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Mon, April 23, 2007 - 1:21 PMThanks so much everyone! I want to avoid glycol because it's an alcohol, but jojoba I love! Thanks so much everyone. I appreciate your help!
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Mon, April 23, 2007 - 9:31 PMHi Salihah
Jojoba is great but depending on the amount of perfume you are intending to make it can get costly. I use Jojoba for my personal oils. I use a combination of Grape Seed and Apricot Kernel oils for larger quantities. On occasion I use Coconut Oil with a touch of Vitamin E. for skin nourishment. Pure essence oils are the way to go especially when mixing different oils together and especially if you are using them for aromatherapy. -
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Wed, April 25, 2007 - 6:00 PMThank you soooo much for the heads up on that. I do my grocery shopping at an Arab market and they have grape seed, coconut, and other oils in gallon size for really inexpensive. We get their olive oil for cutting and the quality is outstanding compared to the regular supermarket, and half the price. They don't have jojoba, though, but what if I use a combination then of grape seed and jojoba? Would you suggest adding water, too? Any recommendations for ratios?
Thank you!
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Thu, May 10, 2007 - 12:40 PMI have been reading up allot on this subject and I think Jojoba oil is the supposed to be the most successful. Although I find it impossible to break down resins without the use of Alcohol. And I wouldn't add any water, it would probaly rot in time.
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Thu, May 10, 2007 - 10:15 PMTry jojoba oil. Love this stuff, it doesn't go rancid and the oil completely disappears into the skin, so you have any visible oilies on your skin. -
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Thu, May 24, 2007 - 6:51 PMI've make my perfume with jojoba and love it. It has a long stable shelf life, the essential oils disperse easily and jojoba tends to be light and not overly greasy. How much you want to add totally depends on how strong you want it. Just don't add water to it, I think someone already said this but anytime you add water to oil you create the best environment for bacteria, yuck!
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Thu, May 24, 2007 - 6:58 PMoh yeah, and re: grapeseed oil. it is a fantastic oil, really yummy for the skin but it doesn't have a very good shelf life and goes rancid. -
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Thu, May 24, 2007 - 7:39 PM
i have been making my own perfume with essential oils for over 20 years
i use 100 proof vodka and a few drops of almond or grapeseed or sesame oil
(and water & mild castile soap when i make household sprays)
when you speak of "alcohol" here, you mean the plasticizers, right?
(as in propylene glycol and diethyl phthalate)
i would like clarification
because i have never experienced any problems with my above recipe
and since reading this subject . . .
i wonder . . .
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Mon, May 28, 2007 - 8:17 PMThis is a nice one for natually-scented oils, they are also at whole foods -
tinyurl.com/2rez7u
I first discovered these from a friend I camped with at BM, who distributes them... I just re-discovred them at whole foods...
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Tue, May 29, 2007 - 6:22 AMThanks Aurelia! For alcohol, I mean any type. For my faith we don't use alcohol internally or topically...except for medical reasons.
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Tue, May 29, 2007 - 6:30 AMI do use alcohol for herbal extracts though.
Anyone that has used grapeseed oil as a carrier oil...how long does it last before going rancid, if kept cool and dark? Does grapeseed effect the smell differently than jojoba or almond oils? I'm wondering because I already have a lot of grapeseed oil here and wanted to try making some perfume oils now, but not if they won't last for long. -
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Tue, May 29, 2007 - 6:30 AMI forgot to add...thanks again for everyone's help, you are all amazing! : ) -
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Tue, May 29, 2007 - 10:48 AMsalihah,
i believe essential oils ARE medicinal!
they are aromatheray and much much more to me.
over 20 years ago,
a book came out called non-toxic and natural
suggesting that when you make your own perfume
you use 100 proof vodka (no odor) so that it does not go rancid
i've been doing it ever since
personally, i detest the ingestion or smell of alcohol
(having been abused as a child by an alcoholic)
and so i understand your religious/faith position
i do not feel i am jeopardizing my health or principles (or anyone else's) at all :)
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Re: Alcohol-free perfume?
Wed, May 30, 2007 - 8:56 AMWow, Aurelia, thank you for that perspective! You are right, how could I have overlooked the medicinal and healing properties of essential oils!
I wish you much healing, joy, and peace.
: )
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Sat, June 2, 2007 - 1:08 PMHi Salihah,
Here is a good reference I use for the stability of oils. www.natoils.com/start.htm I've use grapeseed as a massage oil as it has great skin nutrients and a nice texture, I just make sure to use it up. You may be able to extend the shelf life by refrigerating it but I don't recommend that for essential oil blends. I think grapeseed does have a bit of an odor, not really strong....slightly nutty? Can't really remember.... Jojoba has no real odor, almond is pretty faint. That's my take on it anyhow......hope this helps..... -
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Fri, June 15, 2007 - 8:22 PMAyn, thanks so much!!! That is just what I needed!!
Did you know your name means "eye" in Arabic? Beautiful!
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